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04/21/2008

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To feed your idle speculation, you gotta also take note that in P Cool's other dispatch yesterday, we learn that no less than "overqualified" [by whose standards?] Bobbie U is running Beers' re-election campaign for state senate.

Utehoven's primary client since Dawn blamed him for Jim's disastrous campaign has been Sheldie ...

I liked Ralston column yesterday........kinda the same theme as Gleaner's today, ie, were fuc*&%!

Beers and Utehoven are in business together, so it's no surprise that they would hook up on yet another adventure together. Beers is a CPA, Utehoven wife runs the CPA association, etc. All cozy. Networking. Inbreeding.

I note that the whole of the republic wing of the State is run out of the South Wing of the governor's mansion; the Vainetian.

As usual, whenever a sensible Republican considers backing a sensible Democrat, the wacky lefties get all upset. That's why you'll never be in power because you can't work both sides of the aisle. I commend Sig for his approach to a possible candidacy of a qualified candidate. And interpreting this as throwing Gibbons on the bus is again a wacky conclusion only an out-of-touch lib could make.

Catherine seems more US Senate material than Gov, and I didn't read Sig's comments as abandoning his boy.

Ralston's take is more credible today. They have a viable and pliable Gov that they can both control and blame--they don't have that with Masto; the most powerful and viable Dem for office in 2010.

Gibbons isn't going anywhere, or you'd have already heard primary challenger rumbles from the GOP--today, he is re-elected comfortably, if not by landslide.

Sensible is not a word I would use to describe him. Try self-serving, or self-aggrandizing, or self-centered. A sensible man does not burden his state with clearly the most incompetent governor we've ever had. He made his money and now, we pay the price; IMO, he represents everything bad with the political system.

Come on Dave202, in Nevada - a SENSEABLE Republican? There are no Republicans in Nevada that run for office that have anything other than the $$$ as their priority. Adelson bought this idiot and every move made from Carson City clearly reflects that. This clown was jarred to find out he would have to deal with the affairs of running the state. He has no clue where his next serving of pudding is coming from much less what to do about running this state.
Gibbons and Sig are Nevada's official whores with Sheldon acting as the official pimp. Sig is making sure his position is not uprooted and wants everyone to know, he is for sale.

Seeing how Nevada dumbocrats have the perpetual habit of replacing garbage with more garbage, the gubber dumbo candidate in '10 will be....drum roll please - Jill Derby.

I can think of no one more capable of continuiing Gibber's pattern of f**kup after f**kup than Derby (based of course on her wonderful tenure as State Chair). As soon as she loses to Heller again, the Douglas Drunks will get right on propping the old nag up to run crawl again.

Young, intelligent, resourceful, bright people like Masto don't have a chance against the Douglas Drunks political machine (as long as the gin holds out, that is).

Dave, this is what you fail to understand--not that Cortez Masto is a "sensible Democrat," because whether or not she is sensible is hardly the point. The point is that Sig Rogich is a juice peddler--not, as Seinfeld might say, that there's anything wrong with that. But his goal is to come out on the winning side, period, not whether Gibbons or Cortez Masto or, before them, Kenny Guinn would be a good governor for Nevada. The question is who will be good for Sig Rogich. When Rogich went to work for Guinn, he figured that he would control him, apparently not knowing that Guinn would do his own thing. He thought he could control Gibbons, but now has discovered that Sheldon Adelson actually owns him. So, it's on to someone else.

Now to the sensibility part. Anyone who thinks Nevadans will elect a Democrat who is truly, unabashedly liberal is in for a rude awakening. But ... and it is an important distinction ... if the 2006 election taught anything, it is that even if the Republican is accused of attempted sexual assault, hiring an illegal immigrant as a nanny, and taking money from a lobbyist, Republicans will vote for him.

lol Tex! The problem is our Reid Inc Republicrat Dems. They don't fight for anything in Carson, are thick as thieves with guys like Sig et al, now take money from Sheldon-- so Ralston commentary is pretty dead on too. Is there any real diff in parties here?

When Titus and Buckley sit down in the Reid lion's den trying to overturn term limits, you get a general sense they're all full of shit and need to go. I would have never thought Dina could even be in the same room with Gibson, much less Harry Reid. I was wrong, I guess.

Until we break these cozy relationships and our elected leaders actually begin to stand for something, nothing will change here. The Californians,now the majority in SoNev, love those silly initiatives, and it's just going to get worse with each passing election.

By sitting on their hands all these years in Carson City, Dems invited this.

I, for one, love young, fast, women with attitude who are winners. Natch that leaves out Hillary and Derby. btw, can Masto drive a race car?

Call it Electile Dysfunction and call it a day.

Doc Green is right. No Buckley, Titus, Derby, or Berkley could ever win statewide, so a more populist brand Dem is needed here-- and they don't fit the bill.

I think Kim Wallin is a true dark horse to move up too. No one is a better campaigner in this state. The whole 2006 class of Dems is tomorrow in Nevada, everyone else is yesterday.

Now it's long past time for them all to assert themselves and take the state over for their generation of leaders. The state big four Dems have nothing to lose and the whole party apparatus to gain by taking over in 2010.

"Now to the sensibility part. Anyone who thinks Nevadans will elect a Democrat who is truly, unabashedly liberal is in for a rude awakening"
Doc, what a sad commentary on Nevadans. Just when did Liberal become a dirty word? I'm a Liberal and a fiscally responsible conservative.

Masto is playing it very conservative as AG-WHY ELSE WOULD SIGMUND EVEN CONSIDER HER? And what has she done, or Wallin for that matter, other than get elected to a state office THREE years ago? That qualifies them for Gov??? Buckley would kick butt in the primary, general, and with her experience and smarts, run this state better than anyone could dream!

They've played it safe and done their jobs without headlines or grand-standing. That's laudable in a first term.

No doubts Babs qualifications, but she would lose her own party primary and just couldn't win a statewide. She's just too liberal, dowdy and lecturing for this state's voters, and has made more intra-party enemies, than friends who would part the sea for her and help her. That's why these other Dem names for Gov are being tossed out recently--folks have scores to settle with her, and many wish to block her path; some in her own caucus.

Her finger prints on the term limits overturn has all but sunk her. The RJ will kill her candidacy on that alone.

The Dems will nominate a much fresher face.

Let's not forget the shot fired across Gibbons' bow (all the way from Iraq) by Uithoven-repped Joe Heck, current darling of the R-J. If things continue on their present course, a primary challenge to Gibbons seems quite conceivable.

BTW, is the newly svelte Gibber still hanging out at his bachelor pad in Reno or has Dawn let him back into the guv's mansion?

The Californians elected our 2006 slate. They want young looking, fresh vibrant people in public office. Ideology takes a back seat in their collective subconscious.

Even the old folks from CA lean heavily to the younger and/or better looking candidates here. It's part of that state's poli-culture that migrated here with them. Celebrity, personality and good looks elects you next door in CA, and now here in NV. 2006 was the first class here that showed that trend statewide here. The 2006 Big Four here are pretty good looking people.

Just channel Alan Cranston for advice on this topic. Harry's biggest obstacle for 2010 isn't his dreadful performance as senator, but that he looks 267 years old!

All four Dems elected in 2006 easily defeat him in a 2010 primary for that fact alone.

It's how they voted there and now here.

What did Rogich do to earn all that money (five-fiqures) from the taxpayer supported, million dollar fine art buying charity called the Nevada Cancer Institute?

Wonder if had anything to do with getting the Institute taxpayer money or land, courtesy of the Ayn Rand free-market republicans?

Odd, give help to poor people and you're labled a "liberal", but give millions of taxpayer dollars to a charity with $240,000,000 in assets and you're a "fiscal conservative."

Reminds me of what the Egg said while sitting on the wall in the book "Alice in Wonderland............" Words mean what I say they mean.

Steven Horsford challenges Shelley Berkley
Kate Marshall or Kim Wallin moves up for Lt Gov
Kim Wallin as Gov or
Ross as Gov or
Catherine as Senator...

...any of these scenarios are very real for 2010, plus a few dozen others. I'd be surprised if 3 of the 4 don't go for higher office in 2010. All four are very electable and have done no damage to themselves since being elected. 2010 will be a bellwether year in changing of the guard within the NSDP and its candidates.

The big offices won't have tired old faces as nominees in 2010. The page was turned in 2006, and the sooner leadership realizes that, the sooner they can divvy up the pie, and work toward getting them elected.

They just have to let go of the reigns and let the newer people step up if they care more about the party than their own ambition--a rarity in the party here.

Funnest thread in weeks...funny funny funny. These predictions are all based upon what?

Mike, name BB's enemies. I do not beleive there are as many as you suggest. All BB needs to make her a viable Gubernor candidate is a significant progressive accomplishment. A record, so to speak. Today, I do not think that that exists but she could elevate her chances dramatically by actually accomplishing something that seems important in 09.

I actually think BB could be a more viable statewide candidate than Dina was. Dina had way more enemies up north than was possible for her to overcome in the south, especially with Harry's lukewarm support for her candidacy. And the anti-woman penchant in the rurals was a real tough nut to crack in from Tonopah to Elko.

And who are all these other Democratic names being floated for Governor? Other than Musto, who I agree can write her own ticket, I have heard NONE.

Mike...bullshit. Other than Musto you're all wet. Miller is a kid, Wallin is too short, and Kate Marshall is an airhead, but I do appreciate her finding all that money under a rock in Manhatten.

I bet Steven is lining up for the new NV 4. I don't think he will challenge Shelley but the outcome of the White House race and how Shelley lined up with the Hillbots could matter. We'll see. Nice try though.

I've heard Ross, Kim and then Catherine floated about for Gov. Several in Babs' caucus wouldn't be disappointed to see her go, as they have their own ambitions and some are more attached to Ross or Catherine. I just don't think Buckley has the legs for a statewide race here.

You either lead with fear or affection, (the best with a combo of both) and Barbara doesn't do either very well. She will go into 2009 as a lame duck and will have trouble keeping her caucus together as the others jockey for position and favor with John O or others.

This is a woman who hasn't gotten more than 5K votes in her own AD races. She's failed to build her identity and organization. Failed to build her own AD. Few even know who she is statewide, she is so-so on TV, and just a bit too bland to fire up folks in Summerlin, North Las Vegas, Sparks, or Eureka.

Again, we can't hope and wish and pray for our voters to be something they are not. They are more likely to look right past her no matter how qualified she may be. She just doesn't look or act like them and she did nothing to build her own brand.

Her name recognition is among the lowest in the entire state. She's been around all these many, many years, and failed to leave an impression outside a small group of supporters in the East valley.

She's behind before she's even begun and that's tough to overcome, let alone create a winning coalition for a general election.

CJ, my fearless predictions are based on rolling oracle bones - a more accurate method than modern polling. I prefer musk ox but they're getting pretty scarce around here. I'd like to use Hairless' bones but eveybody knows he's somewhat less evolved than your common garden variety slug.

No doubt in my mind Steven is running for Congress in the new CD04, but he'd be wise to get his feet wet like Porter did against Berkley as a primer. He may actually beat Shelley, that's how angry Obama supporters are at her today and they're a big chunk of CD01. It's harder and harder for Shelley's voters to relate to her; a woman in $10,000 couture clothes and $3000 sparkly shoes too. She may be ripe for challenge.

Despite what these people look like, or their ages, you have to look at their numbers all over the state. CCM's were just spectacular everywhere--those numbers win US Senate races in western states! Kim may be short, but she owns her audience when she campaigns, and knows how to speak a 3 minute speech! Kate is hitting her stride and has a cool, comfortable speech she now gives, Ross needs more public time, but together--they are tomorrow in the party.

All earnest and young, all very electable, none have made major mistakes that have harmed them.

Our voters like them all, and we have to be aware of that simple fact and help them along.


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