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03/31/2006

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I always thought you were smarter than this Hugh.

Let’s be clear where this info stems from; this is the opposition research of Jim Gibbons and Sig Rogich. It is widely known that Gibson is the only candidate they fear in this race. Titus has no chance in the general election vs. Jim Gibbons and you’re a fool if you don’t think he and Rogich are doing everything in their power to get her there. Am I the only one frightened by the thought of Governor Jim Gibbons? The only thing Titus is doing to Nevada’s Democrats -– all Nevada’s Democrats -– is handing over the Governors Mansion to the most incompetent man in Nevada. Once again our party is being played out by a GOP strategy team with enough foresight to hand pick there opponent. Thank you team Titus for your assistance on this matter, I’m sure we can count on Sig and Gibbons to continue and spoon feed you from here on out. I look forward to hearing from you shortly on this blog.

If we can’t turn to the astute Hugh Jackson to illuminate the truth, where can we turn? I always expected more from a man who has “been quoted in publications nationwide including the Wall Street Journal, New York Times, Boston Globe, U.S. News and World Report, American Prospect, Mother Jones and Village Voice.”

At least spell Lorraine's name right.

Until I saw the author's name on the "I thought we were smarter than that" post, I thought the writer was smoeone advising me, once again, to give up on a candidate whose integrity, quick mind, common sense, and passion I admire and instead back the "sure winner." (Ironic, since Lorraine Hunt wouldn't want that logic applied to the Republican race; she'd also spell her name right.)

Well I for one am tired of the "lesser of two evils" argument. I'm supporting Dina Titus for governor not because she "wouldn't be as bad as" Gibbons, but because she is the governor I want to have. Her values are ones I (and most Democrats and people in general) value--honesty, empathy, r4esponsibility, strength, fairness, opportunity, cooperation, and more.

Relinquishing our best choice out of fear of a Gibbons governorship would stop the battle for Nevadans' hearts and minds before it's even begun. If enough of us are willing to fight for a candidate because of what she is (Nevada's best hope for the future), and not for what she is not (the lesser of two evils), then we will elect Dina Titus not only in August but in November.

PS: If the research on Jim Gibson is true, it doesn't matter to me where it came from. And if it did come from Jim Gibbons, he may someday regret that he helped put Dina Titus in a position where she could beat him to the statehouse.

First, having done a little research in my time, and knowing Dina Titus, I think she is eminently capable of having opposition research done without turning to the Republican munchkins.

Second, if the Gibson folks can't do better posts than the one they have been doing here, I think your candidate is in serious trouble.

Way to go Dina! The only way we will have changes in the quid pro quo scandals of government officials and big money donors is to expose it! Titus is the most refreshing and honest political figure I've ever seen in the State of Nevada. Sock it to him, and when your done with him sock it to the Repub. You will knock them all out!!!! Run Dina run......

Titus is the first elected official I know of to document the pay to play truth of politics in Nevada. I don't care who becomes the next Governor because I think this stuff will continue until we all wake up and demand it stop. Her plan for ethics in Nevada while good does not go far enough. I won't vote for any of the people including Titus but at least Titus is exposing the truth. GOOD JOB

I think there's a great wave of fear among those who make piles of money from zoning changes and such that someone will try to clean up politics in Nevada. And they are afraid Dina may be the one to do it. No wonder her opponent gets all those developer dollars. No wonder we have baseless claims that she can not win. Here's to victory for the citizens of Nevada! Go Dina!

Hi, I'm Loraine Hunt. No, I mean Lorainne, um, Lorrain, no I mean Lorayne...

Politics no longer passes the common sense test. Government officials like Gibson and others have for years stood in front of the public and told them that campaign contributions, zoning changes and political appointments involving the same people just happen to be a coincidence. Tom Delay, Duke Cunningham, Jack Abrammoff, Erin Kenny, Lance Malone, Triple D, Jack Galardi, Fran Deane, and on and on, told us exactly that over the last few years. If we want to save our democracy we must stop this madness. At least Titus is bringing to the fore front the most serious problem making our government officials ineffective and at worst criminals. Gibson appears to have walked a fine line to be sure he does not get charged with wrong doing but all these ties are more than just coincidental. As the bible says “The love of money is the root of all evil” Oh how true, how very very true.

None of that proves anything, the other council members voted too. There are zone changes all the time. When areas develop there is need for zone changes, you have to have commercial properties, you can't just have houses. I can't believe he also voted to let Marnell go ahead and build a resort that would bring millions of dollars of revenue to the city's economy, what was he thinking? Maybe, he was thinking that it would be good for the city, which it will be. Gibson did nothing wrong, and you guys are fools for buying into it. All Titus is trying to do is have idiots like you think that he is doing what some of the Commisioners did, and they are not even close. What Gibson has done is not illegal or unethical.

Henderson Dem, if you like the Gibson style of politics than keep your Bush loving half Republican Mayor. Urge him to stay and make Henderson the special interest capital of Nevada. We cannot allow this style of Government to continue to spread. The only way we can get our government officials to work again for the middle class is to point out these payoffs. Business persons like Marnell don't give $150,000 in campaign contributions and expect nothing in return, or do you believe he is just a nice guy looking out for all of us. Stop being stupid unless of course you are bought and paid for by Marnell & Co.

Where are the chronicles of him getting money before he threw his hat in the race? Nowhere, because there are none. He decided to run for governor and people and companies wanted to donate, because they want him to win. It had nothing to do with zone changes, which the other members of the council voted for too. I can't wait to hear some more baseless accusations in the future. Where does Bush factor into this, the mayor didn't vote for him?

Apparently Henderson Dem has bought into the Marnell is a nice guy looking out for all of us line. Does he forget that only Gibson knows who he truly voted for in 04? Does he believe that the only Republican Gibson has supported is Porter? My,my, he admitted to supporting Porter with campaign contributions because you can't refute a documented fact. I was at the 04 Presidential Caucuses with 6,000 other Democrats. I saw John Kerry there, Dina Titus there, hell even Mayor Goodman was there. But where was Jim Gibson? Oh He must have been voting for a zone change.

Foks, the point is someone is very frightened of Titus getting the Demo nomination. Doesn't matter if that someone is a "Democrat" or Republican, the fear of her winning in November is the real objective of these comments. In any case Gibson got more than contributions, he got muddy crap...same will go for all the other politicans with their hands out and selling "juice". It may be the beginning of the end of the juicing of Nevada.

Diogenes, I hope you are right and that this is the beginning of the end of 'juice' in Nevada. But can it possibly happen? Every one of us wants the 'right' person to be elected. Whereas I want the one who believes in equality and equal access and ethics, someone else wants the person who believes in unfettered growth, government control of the individual, and faith-based decision-making. If I had a million dollars sitting around, I would happily give it to Dina Titus to help her win the Governorship. Would that be pay-to-play? I would give the money in the hopes that what Dina Titus says today will be what she does in January. When Marnell gives sums of money to Mayor Gibson, he too is hoping that Gibson will do what he says he will do- otherwise, why give money? Gibson gets developer money because developers expect Gibson to do what Gibson has done in the past-- make decisions that favor developers.
Why are there such denials about this?

Do you believe in people over profit or profit over people? Do you want casinos and industrial parks in your backyard or planned, consistent growth where the original plan is not modified at a later date to satisfy developers and screw homeowners who bought homes believing they knew what they were getting?
Do you want Red Rock Canyon to remain a park for all to visit or do you want Red Rock to be a private area for golf courses and country club members only?

You run on your record, not away from it. Gibson has not been an active Democrat until recently and active Dems know this. He shouldn't deny it, he should explain why he stayed away-- at least that might afford him a little credibility. And if that reason is because he didn't feel he needed to rubs elbows with the base because his family has been here since Henderson was Hooterville or because wealthy companies gave him the cash necessary to win previous elections without getting grease on his elbows, then admit it and move on! People are irritated with him and find him disingenuous because he is denying his past and trying to rewrite it.

Interesting comments, Lisa Simpson. It intrigues me that both parties want to marginalize their centrists.

It's either people or profit, when in fact, without profit, people starve...all people.

As well, it is impossible to have a healthy public sector...read schools, police, fire (those things that Dina says public entities must do...a whole other discussion)...without a healthy private sector. It takes businesses making money and providing jobs.

Both parties want to marginalize their centrists? Does this mean Jim Gibson is a centrist? If getting the overwehelming amount of you campaign money from just a few contributors thats an interesting definition of a centrist. Titus got a massive amount of contributions from little people like us, more than any of candidates for governor. Titus is the centrist and Gibson is the candidate of the money elite who are working to keep the spigot open and well supplied.

Nine and a half years of voting on zone changes and other matters related to the city; not one of those is under question by Mrs. Titus. All of the sudden, now that the mayor is her opponent theses votes of the last six months are somehow tainted. No, they are not. Every city across this great country has council members voting for zone changes on a daily basis. You guys do not even know what these properties were even zoned for to start out. For all you guys know they were the smallest of change. These guys donated money because they support the mayor, he dealt with all of them before, but he never got money before, I wonder why. Maybe it is because he is an honest person, who would never do what Titus is accusing him of, which there is no and never will be any evidence of. Every zone change the mayor has ever voted for, is in no way, shape or form questionable. Intelligent people can see exactly what Titus is doing. He should listen to you guys, and instead of appointing Marnell to the board of tourism, he should have appointed someone who knows nothing about the industry.

What about Titus who serves in the state's executive branch and also the legislative branch? The Nevada constitution seperation of powers clause prohibits a person from serving in two of the governmental branches at once. Yet, Titus, this champion of ethics, completely dismisses this clause, and has gone to great lengths to explain why the clause doesn't pertain to her. Yes there are many politicians in Nevada who are in need of some schooling in ethics; people like Dina Titus, who ignore this document that they are sworn to uphold haven't helped the situation; they've actually incouraged it.

Just to reiterate what Henderson Dem said; the other council members voted as well. They voted because there was nothing wrong with the proposed zone changes, and most likely because it was good for Henderson.

*encouraged

Yes, Jim Gibson is a centrist

Why in the world will Gibson not endorse an ethics plan or at least come up with one of his own? Does he feel the public does not care? Does he feel it may upset his donors? Is Dina the only elected official who thinks the current system is a discrace and something must be done? Either you want to clean up ethics or you don't, Titus has proven she does and Gibson obviously has proven he doesn't.

Gibson did endorse Dina's plan.

Precisely: he endorsed Dina's plan ... after SHE presented it ... and HE criticized her.

Actually, Gibson DIDN'T endorse Titus' ethics plan. If you watch "Face to Face with Jon Ralston," you'll see he endorsed only a couple elements of it, including "no cash contributions." But the bulk of her plan Gibson didn't endorse, and now we know why: He's been doing the very thing that Titus wants to ban, pay to play.

Please note, anonymous poster, that I wrote people OVER profits-- not what you stated, people OR profits. There is a big difference and a lot space between those two. By your logic, I can imply that your are 100% for illegal immigration simply because businesses need cheap labor?

This is the primary, folks.. it's all about the base. Whoever wins the primay will show their centrist capabilities in the general election.

And those of use who live in Henderson DO know what some of those zoning changes were-- like the homes near downtown that were 'zone changed' for private businesses or the shopping center zoning changed to 'induistrial use'. Those homeowners probably do not believe that the Council (headed by Gibson) voted for their interests.

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